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Sneaking online at lunchtime to throw up this quick post of character notes for an AU event at [livejournal.com profile] luceti. This is a bit incoherent and sketchy and mostly for my rp buddies, but anyone's welcome to say what they think!

So I'm going with genderbending for this AU. Girl!Zoro is from a universe where the Straw Hats (and possibly some other people) are and always have been the opposite sex. Key persons such as Gold Roger and Hawk-eyes Mihawk are not switched. Neither, I've decided, is anyone else in Zoro's background. Her sensei is still a man, and her rival and sensei's daughter Kuina was still that—a daughter.

Zoro's history, personality, and abilities are much the same as in canon. No, really, Zoro and her choices and actions would pretty much not differ at all. >_> With a few slight adjustments, more mental than anything else. Along with being Kuina's childhood rival and desperately wanting to defeat her, Zoro admired and probably even hero-worshipped her to an extent as a role model, another take-no-bullshit girl going after the same goal. After Zoro lost their 2001st duel, hearing Kuina bitterly denounce their training and efforts as useless and their shared dream of becoming the strongest swordsperson in the world as impossible (given that they were both female) was a cruel shock.

Zoro immediately and vehemently argued back against this, as she had never been concerned about gender and impossibility. Something along the lines of “Don't you—you who's always beating me, you who are my goal—don't you say that to me!” It rather loses the element of “I will defeat you because of my skill rather than because of your gender”, and instead becomes more “You're my goal, I want to beat you because you're the best here, not because you're the only other girl doing this, and I will not beat you because you just give up—and we'll both kick the asses of anyone who thinks our dream isn't possible and show them.” She brings Kuina around and they make the same promise as in canon, and when Kuina dies the next day, it's just as devastating for this Zoro. Her dream is as much about proving to Kuina that it's possible for them as it is about their promise and her own inborn ambition. As such, she definitely gets...irritable if someone implies that it's not.

The other, probably more obvious difference that stands out to me is that this Zoro is more brash, aware of, and contemptuous about things to do with sexuality. This is due to her experiences as a girl fighting in a man's arena, and, well. A teenage girl traveling alone, and constantly engaging the seedier, more vicious parts of society in her quest to become the Strongest? Growing ever more infamous as a pirate hunter who's showing up all the big strong men? Yeah, she's had plenty of aggressive, oftentimes outright malicious guys trying not-good things. Luckily she's still basically 100x More Badass Than Everyone and Totally Uninterested, so she generally cuts up and crushes those types beneath her boot before they can do more than talk big and vulgar. She's had her fair share of uncomfortable, infuriating moments, though nothing worse than that.

But yeah, anyway, she's a lot more consciously aware of that kind of thing, and doesn't react to even the most innocent, platonic flirting with any amount of friendliness. (Exceptions made with much ill-grace for Robin(o) and Nami(zou), once she figures out that they're always just teasing.) Further, her natural overprotective streak definitely extends to her female crewmates in this sense. The Straw Hats have some very attractive women, and among them some pretty innocent, naïve women (coughUsoppandLuffykocough). Skeezebags (or non-skeezebags, Zoro isn't picky >_>) hitting on them are either (somewhat) subtly intimidated away or just outright crushed, depending. She's not loud about it, though, it's still in the same somewhat faux-distant, 'I'm just doing this because I want to' kind of way that she does most things.

She's just as blunt, fight-loving, clear-eyed, generally Strong and Silent, booze-loving, nap-happy, direction-impaired, grumpy-tempered, calm, and overall Zoro as ever. Aside from it being her baseline personality to not give a damn about unimportant things, she's come to find it somewhat amusing, how consternated people get when she's crude and man-ish. That combined with her necessary greater awareness of the existence of sexuality—even if she's still not interested in it herself—means she tends to make rather more vulgar references than guy!Zoro. She's got marginally less upper body strength—not that most people would notice—and is much more quick on her feet than guy!Zoro, and her fighting style is adjusted accordingly. ...Possibly her weakness to small, cute things is a little more apparent and in the open in this version. :Da

...Nothing else comes immediately to mind, I may add more to this if other things occur. Thoughts? Disagreements? Additions? Quibbles? I'm open to input. /o/

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Date: 2010-08-15 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fantasyfan17.livejournal.com
Oh god, this is asking for derpy adventures in cute things, isn't it? "ZORO I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM AND I HAVE WINGS AND I'M FREAKING OUT but I also found this adorable tarantula and there's a talking bunny in the backyard..."

Also, I really love that she's amused by people squawking about her less-than-ladylike behavior. It makes me picture Namizou getting all "STOP BEING SO UNDIGNIFIED B|" and Zoro's just like "/drinks and belches >D" and maybe I should get some caffeine I'm sorry

And the bit about Kuina makes my heart crack into tiny little pieces, damn you. Just as much as it did in canon. This has been generally pointless, hasn't it. I- I don't have anything to prod about or to disagree with right now, it all looks pretty well thought-out 8Db

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Date: 2010-08-15 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] threeswordsoul.livejournal.com
Uh, YES to derpy adventures in cute things. >.> I thought that they were supposed to remember their time in Luceti, though, just altered to fit their AU backgrounds?

Hahaha, thaaaat is pretty much how it probably goes, actually! XDD

Not useless!! I'm glad it all made sense and that the Kuina thing still works after the switch and thanks for the stamp of approval! 8DDb

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Date: 2010-08-15 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sniperkingftw.livejournal.com
That is true. I was just too lazy to give it much thought yet. We get to freak out about different-body-Chopper all over again, don't we?

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Date: 2010-08-15 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] threeswordsoul.livejournal.com
Oh yes, indeed! XD I imagine their time in Luceti wouldn't actually be all that different, either, hahaha.

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Date: 2010-08-15 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sniperkingftw.livejournal.com
fffff, reindeer-doctors love our heads, apparently.

But yeah, really, I don't think their misadventures in Luceti would be too different. Even if they're all the wrong gender and Namizou with boobs will forever break brains, nakama is nakama, right?

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Date: 2010-08-15 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiteadelphi.livejournal.com
I don't really have a lot to say in terms of feedback beyond echoing Dani actually XD And glad that the two of you both put this stuff up so I get some insight into what changes with the crew. And ffff, Kuina ;_;

I'm looking forward to this >.>

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Date: 2010-08-15 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] threeswordsoul.livejournal.com
/o/ Awesome! Glad it's helpful! XD And like I said to Dani, I'm glad you react the same way to Kuina here, because it's been a part of my headcanon for girl!Zoro for ages and I was a little worried about that dynamic.

:DDD yay! Me too, hahaha.
From: [identity profile] raikomotomiya.livejournal.com
So going by your thoughts here, would Koushirou have given girl!Zoro the same talk as he gave Kuina? Where Zoro grew up, and Koushirou himself, seems very traditional by Japanese standards. Did he hold the same attitude about female swordsmen after Kuina's death, and if so how did that affect his relationship with Zoro, as male!Zoro clearly respects him.

Manliness in One Piece - it keeps coming back, and back in canon, the subject of what is a real man and what does a real man do. Given Zoro's made a few statements about it throughout the series, what is girl!Zoro's position on it? What does she agree with and what doesn't she?

It makes sense that this version of Zoro would be more brash and aware and contempteous of sexuality, as for women it's something that is thrust a hell of a lot more in our faces then in mens given the treatment the opposite gender gives the other. So, how does she treat men who aren't flirting? Are there assumptions made upon contact that are either kept or discarded after Zoro has gotten to know the person? How about her interactions with women that are not crew? How does she treat women who have bought into what men think of them? Anything of note?

Sanji and his... okay, her infatuation with the other gender. Is there anything different in how this Zoro deals with that issue? Because I can imagine there would be a lot more men than women willing to take advantage of what Sanji has to offer. You said Zoro was actively protective and chasing off any suitor? Does that apply to Sanji? Zoro knows Sanji is capable of handling herself in a straight fight, is there any concern that Sanji might not lift a hand or realise things are going bad when with a man due to gender blindness. Is there concern that Sanji might willingly let bad things happen in her desire to please a man? How is there relationship the same? How is it different?

Same deal with Nami(zou) and Robin(o), and basically any other character. Baseline, despite gender flip, Zoro is the same. Other characters may not be. How are interactions different? How are they same? Is Zoro's opinion of them the same?
From: [identity profile] threeswordsoul.livejournal.com
He wouldn't have, in my view, given that Zoro is not his actual daughter and wouldn't have been wanting to inherit the dojo, as Kuina probably did. And I believe that he did NOT hold the same attitude about female swordsmen after Kuina's death. Even in canon, when he gives Zoro Wadou he says he was mistaken and that Kuina had been pushing beyond the boundaries that he'd thought were possible with Zoro as an impetus.

Zoro probably holds the same position as before, regardless of the fact that she's not a man herself. :|a I'll think about it some more, but...aha, all of these questions are awesome and world-buildy, but honestly a bit more in-depth than I'd intended to go, given that I want to use this event to have fun and relax considering I'm still sort of burned out, and it will only last a few days. >.>

Most of the things you bring up (men in general, crew, other women, Sanji, character interactions) are all stuff that I've considered and have a baseline idea about how girl!Zoro would feel, no worries, but I'm not up to writing it all out at the moment, sorry. |D It would turn into a huge essay, and I can't do it right now, haha. Suffice to say I don't know the whole deal with Sanji yet, I need to talk to the mun. Zoro is NOT protective the same way with Sanji as he is with Luffy and Usopp (and Chopper XD), but she definitely keeps an eye on her in case something happens to the idiot.

Thanks for the thinky thoughts and input, Rai!
Edited Date: 2010-08-15 04:03 am (UTC)


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